Us Vs. Them! How The Two Sides Think

I have been having a running debate, and I say debate, because it's been civil, with a friend of mine about the Obama Administration, health care, taxes, and where you get your information.  I have reprinted in it's entirety, his last entry that came today, and my response.  Edited only for spelling errors.  I think this is a pretty good example of, Tea Bagger vs. Liberal thinking.

Richard wrote:

Sorry, I pay more each pay check in taxes than I do in medical coverage. Also, you can add all the other taxes that we all pay and that is a huge chunk of $$ each month. Now this "health bill" will add even more taxes and will be run by the broken and corrupt IRS. Is that really a good idea, NO.
As for "newspapers" they are all mostly JUNK. They don't report the news, they create it and spread their Lib ideas. The NYT is a great example of creating stores as "news" and then are proven to be false, but they never "retract" the story or correct it. CBS is another great one for fabricating stories and then not retracting.
If all the media would return to their true form of reporting, as in both sides of a story so folks can decide for themselves, that would be great for our country. Until then, I cannot and will not believe half of the shit printed.
Apologize for the fool in the white house, never. This guy is a joke, never should have been elected and has no clue what he is doing. A teleprompter president is a joke, without it, he is a lost mumbling fool. Our golfing president...Hmm..how about doing some real work Mr. Pres! I respect the Office but not the person and never will. The info I had came from an Ohio paper, not Fox News...nice try on that one. Real "smart people" don't try to destroy their country, they work hard to keep it running in the right direction and preserve it for future generations. They also abide by the Constitution and not try to change it to their own liking.
Oh well, You are a lost soul my friend. If only the Democrat party could return to its true roots (Kennedy era), then maybe they could get things done right....Like pass a budget that is mandated by the Constitution. We have not had a budget passed by the Senate in over 3 years! How the hell can we continue to run a country with crap like that. BOTH sides need to get their SHIT together. I am sick and tired of CAREER POLITICIANS. It is time for term limits on Congress and the Senate, get rid of these pompous assholes! Sick and tired of the BLAME GAME that is continuously going on. Congress needs to do the work for get the hell out of town!
Oh, explain the budget deficit issue if you can. Bush left office with a $480+ billion deficit and we now stand at how many TRILLIONS? Wow, that's great presidential work there, especially all his FAILED energy ideas like Solyndra to name one.
Keep bowing down to this P.O.S. president, he does want to be king one day. Look into his "studies" of socialism and learning from the likes of Saul Alinsky(Rules for Revolution/Rules for Radicals...SOCIALISM). He likes the way Chavez runs his country, is that how you want ours run? Give it some thought, hope you see the light one day soon before it is too late.

a few seconds ago

Jeff Stickley

• You proved my point. It wasn't the President that was wrong about Ohio. It was you. But stick to your guns (no pun intended).
  
  You want to talk budget deficit? Clinton left a surplus that, Shrub pissed away.
  
  You're great at the Faux News talking points, Rich. "Teleprompter" President? Do you watch the news? EVERYONE, even the guys giving speeches at the LDS Conference use teleprompters! If anyone should know the subject matter, you would thinking it would be prophets, seers, and revelators. They are all Republicans by the way.
  
  And I guess Obama's teleprompter is way to, "new fangled" for you folks. You prefer, Sarah Palin's hand and a ball point pen?
  
  You fail to acknowledge that we fought two wars we didn't need to fight, and didn't bother to pay for them. It's like in January 2009, Shrub threw the checkbook at Obama and said, "Oh, by the way, I haven't looked at that in a while. Good luck."
  
  And you can't continue to blame the guy in office now when he's had almost four years of no cooperation from the other side. Just automatic, "NO" votes on anything he comes up with, even when they were their ideas in the first place.
  
  I know, newspapers are hard. You have to take the time to READ them. It's easier to just be told by Faux News that the NYT lies, but the WSJ tells the truth. The Washington Post lies, but The Washington Times, run by the Reverend Sun Yung Moon, with a decidedly Conservative bent, tells the truth.
  
  I'll give you an alternative. Subscribe to, "The Week" magazine. A comprehensive compilation of news from both sides of the spectrum. You can't help but learn something there, and you can read the whole thing in an hour if you skip the part about great real estate deals on million dollar homes, and the celebrity news. I read it every week to see how your side thinks. I would say, poorly.
  
  I have seen the light. You get there by critical thinking. And I don't want to live in the country you want. I might have been born in the 50's, but I don't want to live in them now.
  
  I don't want separate schools for Black people. I don't want Blacks and Whites to be prohibited from marrying. I don't want a poll tax, or a world without medicare, medicaid and welfare for our poorest (as your buddy, Jesus said, "As you treat the least among you, you treat me..." didn't he?).
  
  I saw a political cartoon the other night, that said, "When you hear a bunch of people saying how they want their country back? This is the country they are talking about:" And it showed a picture of The Confederate States of America.
  
  And what's with the outright denial of science by your team? You're still arguing that Global Warming doesn't exist? Come on. Go outside and catch some ashes on your tongue! They are coming down like snow flakes at my house right now.
  
  Nope, we shall never see eye to eye on politics. But you better hope that someone with a bigger campaign war chest than you or I have, can see close enough to compromise on some issues and get this country moving again. We're in trouble and it's not the Presidents fault.
  
  It is the fault of a deadlocked, and decidedly Republican controlled Congress. You say you're tired of the blame game? Well, I would be too if every credible news source in the country kept blaming MY SIDE for the problem. But the truth hurts, and sometimes, like this one, and in Evolution vs. Creationism, there are NOT too sides. Your team is wrong, mine is right. And history will prove it.

I guess we'll see if he wants to keep debating, or just calls me and asshole and defriends me.  But credit where it's due.  He may use the, "teleprompter", "drank the Kool Aid", and tons of other BS talking points, but he's hung in there a lot longer than anyone else who's picked this fight with me.  I like a guy who keeps swinging.